[Digital BW] Re: R1800 "pure carbon" approach?

> That's an excellent price if it's new. The refurbished R1800s are about> $350 from Epson and $330 on E-Bay (Epson-refurb).Nah, it's not new. Refurbished from Epson. After doing a bit moreresearch here, I've learned that you've had bad experiences buyingrefurbed Epson printers. That surprises me because I've always beenunder the impression that refurbed products get MORE testing than newproducts.Considering your experience, would you still buy a refurb?> The 260 I have does print a single jet smoother than the> 1800, but the reduced microbanding may simply be a result of increased> roughness, which is not a good trade for those who want the smoothest> multi-channel carbon printing.> Since I already have the 220 with MIS inks, I think I definitely wantto give either the R800, R1800 or R2400 a try. In fact, I'm prettyhappy with the results from my 220 and the main reason driving thisnew purchase is the desire for better color prints. Although I don't currently make many prints bigger than 8x10, I thinkit may be worth the extra $100 to reserve that option. Having saidthat, Epson lists refurbed R800s for $140 on their website (not instock currently). To me that sounds like the ultimate low-costarchival option for someone who wants to print B&W and color on 8.5 x11 matte papers.Thanks,ChrisPlease visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrintIf you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page.Please follow these basic guidelines:- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short.- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice.- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership.- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/join (Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email: mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/